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Re: Bolton Saturday
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:13 pm
by mickmike wilson
spirit of 1990 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:35 pm
Main Stand SeasonTct wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:03 pm
IIRC this has been mentioned some time ago and the segregation fence is so that it can easily be moved. From what I can recall though extra capacity for away fans would only be given if the club were unlikely to fill the rest of the ground with home fans. FA Cup rules are away team is supposed to get 15% of ground capacity roughly 750 for Holker street so might not have any option but to increase the away end capacity by another 100 if a large following of away fans are expected.
The fencing definitely cannot be easily moved. The HSE changes shape as you move towards the home end meaning the fencing, fixtures & gates won’t fit the next column.
I’m not saying it can’t be done but it wouldn’t be easy and not something that can be done quickly.
Besides lack of foresight what stops the club creating a second barrier to be used as and when, Get a local engineering company to fabricate & install at cost in exchange for 3 yrs of free advertising.
Even if we paid full whack, it would pay for itself easily.
In an ideal world we don’t want away fans in the Holker end nor do we want to be outnumbered at home etc but it is what it is & we could be turning our noses up at free money several times per season which could fund this elusive 20 goal striker or destructive midfielder we all want
Re: Bolton Saturday
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:22 pm
by blue nige
mickmike wilson wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:13 pm
spirit of 1990 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:35 pm
The fencing definitely cannot be easily moved. The HSE changes shape as you move towards the home end meaning the fencing, fixtures & gates won’t fit the next column.
I’m not saying it can’t be done but it wouldn’t be easy and not something that can be done quickly.
Besides lack of foresight what stops the club creating a second barrier to be used as and when, Get a local engineering company to fabricate & install at cost in exchange for 3 yrs of free advertising.
Even if we paid full whack, it would pay for itself easily.
In an ideal world we don’t want away fans in the Holker end nor do we want to be outnumbered at home etc but it is what it is & we could be turning our noses up at free money several times per season which could fund this elusive 20 goal striker or destructive midfielder we all want
I remember Luton having the Holker (street
) end , also Hartlepool , i`m with you Mike unless we have sell out crowds common sense should prevail, the club lost out on a lot of useful income yesterday !, sentiment and principles don`t pay bills etc if we want our club to remain at this level , we have to think outside the box and if people can`t see betond this well...............!
Re: Bolton Saturday
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:51 pm
by Steeley
I wouldn't be arsed giving up more space for the odd occasion that a team wants to bring more than 600 especially if we weren't going to sell out home end.
Re: Bolton Saturday
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:18 pm
by dodger
I’ve been in the Holker end (st end) well over 50 years. Been shoved from pillar to post over time so not to bothered if we have to accommodate the larger away following 3 to 4 times a year if it helps the revenue. The Hoker st End has never been better. So you got to ask at half time yesterday why did 50% of the home fans leave it and didn’t return the 2nd half?
Re: Bolton Saturday
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:18 pm
by Jonty
dodger wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:18 pm
So you got to ask at half time yesterday why did 50% of the home fans leave it and didn’t return the 2nd half?
I don't think they will be able to move around so freely in league games where crowd control and stand capacities will be set. I personally think its the worse place in the ground to watch a game. I gave a go for the two games we were allowed to see last season and you cant see for the pillars, which i still think it was over engineered. There are no facilities down that end and the obstructed views are worse than anywhere else. Saying that, first time Ive heard some chanting from under there with the roof on and it was impressive. Get it all seated and given to the away fans and reinstate the popside terrace steps back to pitch level. That would provide a the solution to the away capacity and the extra seats needed
Re: Bolton Saturday
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:17 pm
by Wintergreen
pjdaly wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:17 am
Wintergreen wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:46 am
Do they serve nuts?
The cases variety, yes. (Well, I had no problem . . . . .)
I‘m sorry the correct answer was of course “They will serve anybody”.
Re: Bolton Saturday
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:19 pm
by blue nige
Jonty wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:18 pm
dodger wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:18 pm
So you got to ask at half time yesterday why did 50% of the home fans leave it and didn’t return the 2nd half?
I don't think they will be able to move around so freely in league games where crowd control and stand capacities will be set. I personally think its the worse place in the ground to watch a game. I gave a go for the two games we were allowed to see last season and you cant see for the pillars, which i still think it was over engineered. There are no facilities down that end and the obstructed views are worse than anywhere else. Saying that, first time Ive heard some chanting from under there with the roof on and it was impressive. Get it all seated and given to the away fans and reinstate the popside terrace steps back to pitch level. That would provide a the solution to the away capacity and the extra seats needed
While you`re on about that Jonty, i wouldn`t have been pleased if i had been in the away end, they had that moveable goal blocking their view !, when all said and done they`re our customers and as a club we need to look at things like this !.
Re: Bolton Saturday
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:29 pm
by Wintergreen
Good point, we get rid of the frost cover and we get a toy goal. It’s got to go! (Parody on my own catch-phrase there).
Re: Bolton Saturday
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:18 pm
by Desmond2-2
Give away your own home end behind the goal is the most ridiculous thing I’ve heard, that’s our territory, where are vocal supporters stand to drive our team on. We are an EFL club now for [SwearFilter] sake , non a tin pot non league. Never give up your ultras standing /singing terrace for anyone. [SwearFilter] the money.
Re: Bolton Saturday
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:23 pm
by blue nige
Desmond2-2 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:18 pm
Give away your own home end behind the goal is the most ridiculous thing I’ve heard, that’s our territory, where are vocal supporters stand to drive our team on. We are an EFL club now for [SwearFilter] sake , non a tin pot non league. Never give up your ultras standing /singing terrace for anyone. [SwearFilter] the money.
Ultas all 30 of them !
Re: Bolton Saturday
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:59 pm
by whitty1969
Heard there was trouble in the away end yesterday.
Must of had my eyes closed all afternoon as I never saw anything.
Re: Bolton Saturday
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:03 pm
by BlueNurse
I was stood very close to the HSE and didn't see any trouble... A bit of banging on the perspex from the Bolton fans, but that isn't anything close to "trouble". All just bull rumours!
Re: Bolton Saturday
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:16 pm
by LewisBAFC1901
Hope that new super duper cctv led to the Bolton fan throwing pyro being thrown out like it would’ve done if it was a Barrow fan
Re: Bolton Saturday
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:17 pm
by BlueNurse
I didn't see any pyro thrown. When did that happen?
Re: Bolton Saturday
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:07 pm
by Tomo
Just before kick off someone threw a smoke bomb.