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Jonty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 4:34 pm Can someone please clarify who is the ultimate decision maker in all this?

I presume that this highways recommendation for refusal can be considered but not upheld. There’s absolutely no strong basis for supporting the recommendation being made. The ground capacity may increase by 1000 with these seats but there’s not many games where we would have a sell out unless we draw a big side in a cup game.
So where we have had no highways parking requirement previously for a ground capacity of circa 5200 and no issues (refer to Villa game), we now have a recommendation for refusal being made that seems disproportionate to any gain in ground capacity and on any strong examples of any previous issues. Fans disperse in all directions to return to parked cars after the game.

Main Stand SeasonTct wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 5:51 pm

Jonty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 4:34 pm Can someone please clarify who is the ultimate decision maker in all this?

I presume that this highways recommendation for refusal can be considered but not upheld. There’s absolutely no strong basis for supporting the recommendation being made. The ground capacity may increase by 1000 with these seats but there’s not many games where we would have a sell out unless we draw a big side in a cup game.
So where we have had no highways parking requirement previously for a ground capacity of circa 5200 and no issues (refer to Villa game), we now have a recommendation for refusal being made that seems disproportionate to any gain in ground capacity and on any strong examples of any previous issues. Fans disperse in all directions to return to parked cars after the game.

The case officer IE Planning officer in this case Maureen Smith will take all views into consideration and then compiles a report giving her recommendation. They can be outright refusal. Grant permission or grant permission providing certain conditions are met. The planning committee made up of elected councillors would discuss the application and make their decision based on Maureen Smiths report.

McMark wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 6:02 pm

Main Stand SeasonTct wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 5:51 pm

The case officer IE Planning officer in this case Maureen Smith will take all views into consideration and then compiles a report giving her recommendation. They can be outright refusal. Grant permission or grant permission providing certain conditions are met. The planning committee made up of elected councillors would discuss the application and make their decision based on Maureen Smiths report.

She was previously the planning officer of Barrow Borough Council.

behind the goals wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 6:54 pm Hopefully sorted by Christmas, if not away fans get what we can give them.

Bakewell Blue wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:06 pm I have just been checking the council website and it looks as though the issues have been resolved, so hopefully it is heading for an approval. Main Stand Season Tct's summary of the planning process above was good, but I think this might be determined as a "delegated" application, by the officers, rather than going to a Planning Committee (about 90% of all applications are decided under delegated powers as it is quicker.)

The two issues that were raised by Highways and the Lead Local Flood Authority (both are actually the local council, but different departments from Planning) seem to have been overcome as there are now notes on the file/website, saying there are now no objections on these grounds. However, the one from the LLFA asks for a planning condition to be imposed which requires a drainage scheme to be submitted and agreed before the development commences (which is standard wording for this sort of thing) but that could be tricky as the development is pretty much finished!

There is a diagram which shows the progress of the application (a pyramid) and this seems to show that the officer report has been done. If it is a delegated decision, it will be signed off by a more senior officer (Head of Planning for example). On the point about Barrow Borough Council now being replaced by Westmorland and Furness Council, as someone has said above, most of the officers will just move from one to the other - it is the Councillors who will change.

I will keep an eye on it and post any updates. This is an interesting one for me as it combines my lifetime passion (BAFC) with my day job (Planning)...not often that happens!

32mile_cul-de-sac wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:26 am Vote the council out next time round as i will be doing. They dont represent my interests, this parking thing makes me think they dont have the communities interests at heart.

32mile_cul-de-sac wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:26 am Vote the council out next time round as i will be doing. They dont represent my interests, this parking thing makes me think they dont have the communities interests at heart.