Bluebirds Trust AGM

For all things Barrow AFC. Keep discussions civil and fair, we're all Barrow aren't we!
Post Reply
User avatar
Ste Story
BarrowAFC.net Administrator
Posts: 8191
Joined: Wed May 28, 2008 1:53 pm
Location: Costa Del Barrow
Contact:

Bluebirds Trust AGM

Post by Ste Story » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:45 pm

Am I right in thinking this is tonight? Thought it'd have a mention on here, anyone planning on going?
:scarf:
Ste Story | Professional Website & Graphic Design in Barrow - www.stephenstory.co.uk

User avatar
Jonty
BarrowAFC Veteran
Posts: 10914
Joined: Wed May 28, 2008 11:01 pm
Contact:

Re: Bluebirds Trust AGM

Post by Jonty » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:49 pm

Yes 7pm I understand. I am going as I would like to hear how it's all progressing in year 2 and plans going into next year.
Last edited by Jonty on Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Still searching for the Young Soul Rebels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mYxZUJt4xc

Ryan P
Member
Posts: 39
Joined: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:42 pm
Location: Barrow-in-Furness
Contact:

Re: Bluebirds Trust AGM

Post by Ryan P » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:50 pm

Correct Ste. 7pm in the Crossbar.
Well, Clive, it's all about the two M's - movement and positioning.
-- Ron Atkinson

User avatar
barrowfan_chris
Platinum Member
Posts: 3497
Joined: Wed May 28, 2008 5:44 pm
Location: The Former Republic of Barrovia.
Contact:

Re: Bluebirds Trust AGM

Post by barrowfan_chris » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:51 pm

Yes its tonight 7pm at the crossbar.

boyliegladbach
BarrowAFC Veteran
Posts: 8713
Joined: Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:07 am
Location: Tel aviv
Contact:

Re: Bluebirds Trust AGM

Post by boyliegladbach » Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:29 pm

Going to have a wander down and pay £10 and rejoin to see if the rumours im hearing are true.

Big announcement.

boyliegladbach
BarrowAFC Veteran
Posts: 8713
Joined: Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:07 am
Location: Tel aviv
Contact:

Re: Bluebirds Trust AGM

Post by boyliegladbach » Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:18 pm

Turns out a former director of the trust, can't add up. Accounts were a few grand out. He's paid a bit back and is paying the rest off.
17 unaccounted for transactions in a 4 month period.
Heard a poor statement read out on his behalf, would have been better if this person had turned up to explain in person.

Don't believe any of it me like, and would have involved the police.

User avatar
Bigfathoss
Platinum Member
Posts: 2748
Joined: Wed May 28, 2008 4:35 pm
Contact:

Re: Bluebirds Trust AGM

Post by Bigfathoss » Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:06 pm

Was it Arthur Fowler?
A=A
Your life, is YOUR life. Live it.

tictactoe
Platinum Member
Posts: 3526
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:11 pm
Contact:

Re: Bluebirds Trust AGM

Post by tictactoe » Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:08 pm

I don't know what's gone on as not involved and not a member anymore but the trust accounts have been a farce from day one
everyone is entitled to their opinion, deal with it

barrowaberdeen
BarrowAFC Veteran
Posts: 9028
Joined: Wed May 28, 2008 4:54 pm
Location: Independent Newbarns

Re: Bluebirds Trust AGM

Post by barrowaberdeen » Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:17 pm

No longer a farce. However folk can draw their own conclusions as the facts come out.

The board were put in a very difficult position once the new financial person identified there was unaccounted money, due to the actions of an indivdual and took a lot of advice on how to proceed. Not all agreed with the advice and would have preferred the legal route.

The money is, however, now being paid back by someone who still admits no wrongdoing from their statement they requested read out, which the majority of the audience felt stretched credulity beyond limits.

User avatar
John Very Little
Platinum Member
Posts: 4136
Joined: Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:32 am
Contact:

Re: Bluebirds Trust AGM

Post by John Very Little » Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:34 pm

The accounts summary was fine, its just they didn't contain the £2618 which is all hopefully being paid back? The statement about that should've been worded far stronger. Hopefully some sort of action will be taken after this.
Agree with the above post from barrowaberdeen.

boyliegladbach
BarrowAFC Veteran
Posts: 8713
Joined: Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:07 am
Location: Tel aviv
Contact:

Re: Bluebirds Trust AGM

Post by boyliegladbach » Thu Dec 01, 2016 7:41 am

Still do t see how that much money can be a mistake.

User avatar
Ste Story
BarrowAFC.net Administrator
Posts: 8191
Joined: Wed May 28, 2008 1:53 pm
Location: Costa Del Barrow
Contact:

Re: Bluebirds Trust AGM

Post by Ste Story » Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:08 am

The note from the trust AGM accounts read:

"During the course of the preparation of the accounts, it appeared that the supporting documentation for a number of outgoings occured during the financial year was inadequate to allow these to be reconciled satisfactorily with corresponding activities on the part of the society. Following further extensive investigation, including enquiries wit the then-treasurer of the society, the total amount in question was reduced to £2,618. The former treasurer has accepted that the outgoings in question were undertaken by him and were not adequately documented, He has also acknowledged his responsibilities as treasurer in respect of these matters. The former treasurer has offered to reimburse the full amount in question to the society. This offer has been documented by way of a written undertaking to that effect. Persuant to this undertaking, an initial payment of £1,000 has already been received with the balance of £1,618 to be paid in monthly instalments during the period to 31 May 2017"

Further information that came out in the meeting was that the £2618 that "went missing" was in the form of 17 ATM withdrawals in cash from the trusts bank account, made by the trust's treasurer at the time (Pete Garbacz), for which the trust board/treasurer etc can not find evidence suggesting the money was for trust means.
:scarf:
Ste Story | Professional Website & Graphic Design in Barrow - www.stephenstory.co.uk

User avatar
Wintergreen
BarrowAFC Veteran
Posts: 7435
Joined: Fri May 30, 2008 12:38 pm
Location: The Blue Planet
Contact:

Re: Bluebirds Trust AGM

Post by Wintergreen » Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:36 am

Fr T.jpg
Fr T.jpg (112.75 KiB) Viewed 16278 times
We will follow the soccer, over land and sea...

Ray Johnstone
Member
Posts: 172
Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2016 9:29 pm
Contact:

Re: Bluebirds Trust AGM

Post by Ray Johnstone » Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:41 am

Can someone kindly forward the ex-Treasurer's statement to those Trust members unable to attend last night's meeting.

Kieran
Gold Member
Posts: 2224
Joined: Wed May 28, 2008 4:05 pm
Contact:

Re: Bluebirds Trust AGM

Post by Kieran » Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:42 am

Ste Story wrote: "During the course of the preparation of the accounts, it appeared that the supporting documentation for a number of outgoings occured during the financial year was inadequate to allow these to be reconciled satisfactorily with corresponding activities on the part of the society. Following further extensive investigation, including enquiries wit the then-treasurer of the society, the total amount in question was reduced to £2,618. The former treasurer has accepted that the outgoings in question were undertaken by him and were not adequately documented, He has also acknowledged his responsibilities as treasurer in respect of these matters. The former treasurer has offered to reimburse the full amount in question to the society. This offer has been documented by way of a written undertaking to that effect. Persuant to this undertaking, an initial payment of £1,000 has already been received with the balance of £1,618 to be paid in monthly instalments during the period to 31 May 2017"
That is an awful statement, smacks of either trying to protect someone or being too scared to go into any further detail. Its poorly worded and tells us nothing about how the situation was allowed to occur, who's fault it was or what measures have been put in place to ensure it never happens again.

I really really struggle to see how 17 separate ATM transactions could've been an oversight, and whether its being paid back or not I am at an absolute loss to understand why the trust board have chosen not to take any further action.

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 56 guests