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Furloughing players

Post by chipmunx » Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:27 pm

this from Chesterfield;-

“A small group of players who do not feature in the manager’s plans have now been placed on furlough.

“This decision was taken in consultation with the PFA and there are other National League clubs who have furloughed players.

“The players in question will receive their full salary and we will continue to provide support to ensure that their mental well-being requirements are met during this time.

“Some of the players could have joined other clubs by now had it not been for the fact that the National League North and National League South fixture programmes have been suspended, leading to us to take this temporary measure.
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so it looks like maybe we can furlough players who will not make the 22 man "roster" after all (if we can't loan them out) - which will help finances.
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Post by chipmunx » Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:31 pm

Mark Simpson has already replied to an Ollie Bayliss tweet about this saying it doesn't seam right - but we'll see;-

https://twitter.com/MarkSimpson1980/sta ... 4887186433
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Post by HenneysKnee » Sun Jan 31, 2021 5:54 pm

Really not so sure on this. Mark Simpson is correct when he says this scheme wasn’t set up so you can furlough existing employees and replace them with new ones

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Post by Adam29 » Sun Jan 31, 2021 7:00 pm

It’s absolutely disgusting what Chesterfield have proposed and I hope they get told where to go

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Post by Matty » Sun Jan 31, 2021 7:01 pm

Chesterfield's stance really doesn't sit right with me at all, and I really hope from our perspective we wouldn't even think about doing such a thing.
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Post by McMark » Sun Jan 31, 2021 7:11 pm

Loads of companies have furloughed staff they just can’t accommodate in the workplace due to social distancing and other reasons and continue to do business. If it’s allowed by the government of the day and and the football league then it’s something we should also be looking into!

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Post by Adam29 » Sun Jan 31, 2021 7:20 pm

McMark wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 7:11 pm Loads of companies have furloughed staff they just can’t accommodate in the workplace due to social distancing and other reasons and continue to do business. If it’s allowed by the government of the day and and the football league then it’s something we should also be looking into!
But the company doesn’t go out and hire more staff to cover those they’ve furloughed do they?
It should no way be allowed to be used in this way.
Shop staff, receptionists etc yes absolutely but not players

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Post by MisterPleasant » Sun Jan 31, 2021 7:50 pm

I can't believe HM Revenue & Customs would allow it but looking at the guidance neither can I see any exceptions which would preclude it!
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Post by chipmunx » Sun Jan 31, 2021 9:02 pm

i think there are 2 types of player here;-
Players like Morgan Penfold who whatever would have been loaned out to lower league teams - that i wouldn't have an issue with.
The 2nd type is your Jason Taylors, Sam Hirds etc who were in the team before we signed additional players. That's harder to accept if they got furloughed.
But in the end i suppose i comes down to this - if the rules allow it and other clubs do it and by other clubs i mean other EFL clubs, then we would be disadvantaging ourselves if we don't. I think it's a case of don't be the 1st club to do it, but if others do and it's accepted then we can?
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Post by McMark » Sun Jan 31, 2021 10:32 pm

Adam29 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 7:20 pm
McMark wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 7:11 pm Loads of companies have furloughed staff they just can’t accommodate in the workplace due to social distancing and other reasons and continue to do business. If it’s allowed by the government of the day and and the football league then it’s something we should also be looking into!
But the company doesn’t go out and hire more staff to cover those they’ve furloughed do they?
It should no way be allowed to be used in this way.
Shop staff, receptionists etc yes absolutely but not players
No football is quite unique in the way it operates. I didn’t say I was in agreement bud as already had a debate on it elsewhere. But if it’s within the rules we would be daft as a business not to explore the avenues available if they are available.

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Post by holkerboy » Sun Jan 31, 2021 10:41 pm

With calibre of the Chairman and his profession I'm sure this situation has been or will be explored.
Let's leave it to him and the Board.

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Post by HenneysKnee » Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:58 pm

There was an excellent interview with Paul Hornby on Radio Cumbrias pre match show today (starts about 2.10pm if anyone wants to listen back) he didn’t rule out us furloughing players

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Post by boyliegladbach » Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:04 pm

Shouldn't be allowed. Total abuse of the system.

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Re: Furloughing players

Post by Matty » Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:18 pm

I don't like that idea either and as I said earlier I really hope we don't take that route, it isn't what the scheme is designed for and wouldn't be a good look whatsoever.
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