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1972 how times have changed.

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 10:32 am
by FanzoneFan
So here we are about to enter our sixth season back in the Football League and I’ll be honest I still pinch myself to think we’re back in the promised land. It was brought home even more when you consider Morecambe’s current predicament, there’s a suggestion on their fans forum that Workington may have voted against us when we applied for re-election in 1972. I find this hard to believe as I’m sure they would have wanted a local side to stay in the League. Does anyone know for sure ?

Re: 1972 how times have changed.

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 11:32 am
by oldtimer
Incorrect. In the voting system the 1st and 2nd division clubs had 1 vote each. The 3rd and 4th divisions had 6 votes between them. Self interest resulted in the 3rd and 4th divisions votes being always cast in favour of the 4 clubs seeking re election. Also this was a secret vote, so no one really knows how each club voted. Although in 1972 Newcastle did come out and confirm that they had voted for Hereford.

Re: 1972 how times have changed.

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 11:44 am
by Hadrian
Absolutely correct as far the 'the' vote was organised. Some former Workington directors, I guess might know how they voted in the Divs 3/4 pre-vote.

There has been a lot of noise over the years that Worky said no but I can't recall definite sources ever being quoted. Whatever, Workington now are not Workington then and I wish them well, as I do the Morecambe fans at this desperate time.

Re: 1972 how times have changed.

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 11:47 am
by bluessupporter
The first vote was tied at 26 each. Instead of the Chairman using his casting vote there was a second vote which Barrow lost by 29 votes to 23.

Re: 1972 how times have changed.

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 2:12 pm
by xerxes
oldtimer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 29, 2025 11:32 am Incorrect. In the voting system the 1st and 2nd division clubs had 1 vote each. The 3rd and 4th divisions had 6 votes between them. Self interest resulted in the 3rd and 4th divisions votes being always cast in favour of the 4 clubs seeking re election. Also this was a secret vote, so no one really knows how each club voted. Although in 1972 Newcastle did come out and confirm that they had voted for Hereford.
Not quite. The 3rd & 4th division clubs had 5 votes between them.

Re: 1972 how times have changed.

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 2:26 pm
by xerxes
bluessupporter wrote: ↑Tue Jul 29, 2025 11:47 am The first vote was tied at 26 each. Instead of the Chairman using his casting vote there was a second vote which Barrow lost by 29 votes to 23.
Second vote was 29-20.

Re: 1972 how times have changed.

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 7:21 pm
by bluessupporter
xerxes wrote: ↑Tue Jul 29, 2025 2:26 pm
bluessupporter wrote: ↑Tue Jul 29, 2025 11:47 am The first vote was tied at 26 each. Instead of the Chairman using his casting vote there was a second vote which Barrow lost by 29 votes to 23.
Second vote was 29-20.
Some more figures to muddy the waters! :)

https://bullsnews.blogspot.com/2012/12/ ... arrow.html

Re: 1972 how times have changed.

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2025 10:22 am
by xerxes
bluessupporter wrote: ↑Tue Jul 29, 2025 7:21 pm
xerxes wrote: ↑Tue Jul 29, 2025 2:26 pm
Second vote was 29-20.
Some more figures to muddy the waters! :)

https://bullsnews.blogspot.com/2012/12/ ... arrow.html
It's wrong. There were a total of 49 voting rights available - 1 each for the 44 1st & 2nd division clubs, plus 5 for the 3rd & 4th division clubs.

A full history of all the stats around re-election can be found here - https://www.southportcentral.co.uk/foot ... admission/

Re: 1972 how times have changed.

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2025 11:02 am
by Pedro
xerxes wrote: ↑Wed Jul 30, 2025 10:22 am
bluessupporter wrote: ↑Tue Jul 29, 2025 7:21 pm

Some more figures to muddy the waters! :)

https://bullsnews.blogspot.com/2012/12/ ... arrow.html
It's wrong. There were a total of 49 voting rights available - 1 each for the 44 1st & 2nd division clubs, plus 5 for the 3rd & 4th division clubs.

A full history of all the stats around re-election can be found here - https://www.southportcentral.co.uk/foot ... admission/
I was a apprentice and going home I bought the paper and in the stop press it showed we had tied on the first vote.
When I got home I found we had lost our league status
What a rocky ride since.
If we are relegated it's our own fault that vote was travesty.
The speedway track did not help but after we beat Hartlepool the then Manager made a complaint about it.
Who knows what this season will bring but we could do with a good cup run to boost the finances.
The defence is experienced but may not be as mobile because of their age.
Cannot see us getting many goals so we will . hopefully get alot of 1-0. wins.
Chesterfield will be a real test but not a defining one