Where do we go from here?

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Re: Where do we go from here?

Post by urswick blue » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:46 pm

whitty1969 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:49 pm
The Tomahawk Kid wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:36 pm One comment that's 'food for thought' - it was made by a steward - so only 'hear say' obviously.
The steward informed me that Paul Cox's decision to leave was based on him not receiving an increase in salary (he'd asked, apparently). However, I have to say, I took the steward's comment with a 'pinch of salt'.
Thank god for that, he was on enough
I have heard that from more than 1 steward. But I will not say who as I was told in confidence,and I Respect that.

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Post by Soulboy » Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:31 pm

Oh dear....

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Re: Where do we go from here?

Post by Pedro » Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:02 am

urswick blue wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:46 pm
whitty1969 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:49 pm

Thank god for that, he was on enough
I have heard that from more than 1 steward. But I will not say who as I was told in confidence,and I Respect that.
I also heard from a steward we had a millionaire as a owner and ,Nick Anderton,Ritchie Bennett and Jordan Williams were being sold to bring in equal or better players and it was ridiculous to think he was trying to recoup some cash.
Main achievement todate
Knocking the urinals down and getting some cash from the sale of the best player.

Again i know i will get stick some from people who disagree with me and especially the Cassonite plants

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Re: Where do we go from here?

Post by Pedro » Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:09 am

Chris Benoit wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:07 pm
The Tomahawk Kid wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:28 pm NOBODY knows what's gone on and none of us ever will.
Reading between the lines and reading past comments made by Casson and Cox in the EM enables one to make an informed assumption, however.
Aye. Just like "nobody" knew things like signings before they were announced. The people I have spoken to in the past have usually been bang on with regards to club news and I doubt that they would gain anything from telling me about Paul Cox sudden (if you could really say that) departure.

Sure, things aren't exactly screaming out investment at the minute but you even admitted yourself that you are forming an opinion off stuff that is not definitive. Maybe try waiting and seeing what happens in due course rather than slating the club for something you aren't actually 100% sure about yourself.
Totally agree both wanted different things.
The Manager wanted to enhance his by reputation by getting the club promoted and the owner wants his cash back

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Post by Chris Benoit » Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:52 am

Pedro wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:09 am
Chris Benoit wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:07 pm

Aye. Just like "nobody" knew things like signings before they were announced. The people I have spoken to in the past have usually been bang on with regards to club news and I doubt that they would gain anything from telling me about Paul Cox sudden (if you could really say that) departure.

Sure, things aren't exactly screaming out investment at the minute but you even admitted yourself that you are forming an opinion off stuff that is not definitive. Maybe try waiting and seeing what happens in due course rather than slating the club for something you aren't actually 100% sure about yourself.
Totally agree both wanted different things.
The Manager wanted to enhance his by reputation by getting the club promoted and the owner wants his cash back
If you say so. I don't think you could be more wrong though. If he wanted his cash back then he'd have pulled the plug on other things like the floodlights which are still being completed. Just because things aren't going at the pace we would like does not mean that they aren't progressing. We might not have a new ground pop over over night like Fleetwood and you know who but we will get there. The new manager when appointed WILL have money to spend too.

I've been a critic in the recent past of Casson but having been given a bit of insight to life at the club under Paul Cox' reign I am now fully behind the owner. We will get a decent manager in who will still have a decent budget. If Paul Casson could just stop the daft statements putting too much pressure on the squad then we might just have a shot at going about things quietly and sneaking into the promotion picture. We don't have the worst squad about and with a couple of tweaks and a new managers fresh input it'll be fine.
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Re: Where do we go from here?

Post by The Real Slim Azza » Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:55 am

Chris Benoit wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:52 am

The new manager when appointed WILL have money to spend too.
Surely he will need to get rid of players first? Casson told Cox there would be no more signings.
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Post by Chris Benoit » Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:57 am

The Real Slim a former member of this forum wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:55 am
Chris Benoit wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:52 am

The new manager when appointed WILL have money to spend too.
Surely he will need to get rid of players first? Casson told Cox there would be no more signings.
And he had his reasons believe me. Nothing to do with wanting cash back or cutting costs.
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Post by Nigel Bamford » Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:58 am

The Real Slim a former member of this forum wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:55 am
Chris Benoit wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:52 am

The new manager when appointed WILL have money to spend too.
Surely he will need to get rid of players first? Casson told Cox there would be no more signings.
Because Paul Cox wanted "biters and scratchers".
It all comes 'round again.

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Re: Where do we go from here?

Post by The Real Slim Azza » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:00 am

Chris Benoit wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:57 am
The Real Slim a former member of this forum wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:55 am

Surely he will need to get rid of players first? Casson told Cox there would be no more signings.
And he had his reasons believe me. Nothing to do with wanting cash back or cutting costs.
So you're saying for some reason, not linked to finance, Casson enforced some sort of Transfer Embargo.
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Post by MikeRenney » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:47 am

a former member of this forum
Chris Benoit has probably told you as much as he can on a public forum. You are are going to have to find out for yourself what went on. I would just say that you, Pedro, et al might be better tempering your criticism of the board and Paul Casson.

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Post by The Real Slim Azza » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:56 am

MikeRenney wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:47 am
I would just say that you, Pedro, et al might be better tempering your criticism of the board and Paul Casson.
Why?
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Re: Where do we go from here?

Post by Hitthebar22 » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:58 am

This is getting like the worst of pub gossip.
Lots of posters are trying to turn speculation, assumption, guesswork into fact and put it on here as fact.
As though they have a reliable link to the truth and all that's recently gone on.
As an example Azalea has just posted "Casson told Cox there'd be no more signings". He might be right, but no one, including himself, knows that to be factually accurate.
What will happen, assuming Casson doesn't bale out, is that a new manager will be appointed, and we'll all have to be patient until the side settles down and deal with it.
It's a bit like hysterical schoolgirls at times.
It doesn't really matter how the situation has developed, and who was at fault if there was a fault, now that it's happened.
What matters now is that we are in, and maintain, a financial position to attract a decent manger who will get the best from our current players.
The negative, live in the past, bashers should be careful what they wish for. If suddenly there's no money, there'll be no players, no management, no infrastructure at all and it's free fall into oblivion.

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Re: Where do we go from here?

Post by Hitthebar22 » Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:01 am

Most things boil down to simplicity.
If Casson bales out as the knockers seem to want, and there is no one waiting to come in, we are knackered as a team, then swiftly afterwards, as a club.

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Post by The Real Slim Azza » Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:02 am

Hitthebar22 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:58 am Azalea
Still don't get this. Keep going though if it works for you
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Post by The Real Slim Azza » Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:03 am

Hitthebar22 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:01 am Most things boil down to simplicity.
If Casson bales out as the knockers seem to want, and there is no one waiting to come in, we are knackered as a team, then swiftly afterwards, as a club.
Who has said they want Casson to "bale" ?
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