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Post by Suffolk Blue » Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:26 pm

Moribund wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:56 pm
That's £160k in revenue for us, but the EFL don't see that extra cash. They'll spunk much more than that fighting legal challenges from Harrogate, Notts County, whoever is not happy with the decision to promote us. The Premier League went down from 24 to 20 teams - do you think that was a mistake because of missed match day revenue?

Again, the space is in League 1 not League 2. That issue would need resolving for us to be "invited".

I can only really see 2 options: we play to a conclusion once football resumes, or a proper null and void - everything goes back to being how it was in August 2019. Maybe I'm a pessimist.
No they wont. Their rules are quite clear. They can choose who they like. It says so in their rules of association and they are backed by the FA. Null and void means they can choose a replacement and since the NL is aligned to the EFL rules an NL club would be stupid to challenge it legally because its legally sound. Indeed its far more sound than the EFL not having a contingency in place s to what happens in the event the season cant be concluded - especially as they do have a rule which can determine the result of a match in the event it cant be completed.

As far as the Premiership size is concerned, smaller is more beautiful when you are receiving the billions in cash from SKY and BT. Fewer teams mean more money to go around. The team finishing bottom of the Prem will receive millions for the privilage of being relegated. In that respect the teams who will be most desperate for Promotion in the EFL are Leeds and West Brom as they probably are set to lose the best part of £100 million each. Dont expect them to take a voiding quietly. By the time you get to get to League 2 the sums involved are much much smaller as is the TV revenue so gate money as a proportion of revenue is far more important.

You are right regarding Bury being in League 1 and not 2 so there would need to be a cascade. But I still say that the financial incentives of a 24th League team would far outweigh the costs. If its adopted in L1 it will be in L2.

Lastly your final point is probably the most relevant in all of this debate. If the Prem and EFL decide that we will finish the season whatever the consequences all of this speculation will be put to bed. Though that still assumes that if the Prem cant restart before August/September then all the clubs down the pyramid will be able to do likewise.

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Re: Decisions being made

Post by sambino » Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:00 pm

Whenever we play again in whatever league I reckon there will be still be massive restrictions in place maybe 500 in the ground how will our finances look then ? be 2 years before we are back to normal in my honest opinion

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Post by behind the goals » Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:10 pm

PerthBluebird wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:41 pm Agreement made money being filtered down happy days
Happy days Dont celebrate just yet the money is an advance to what we would have received in August not new money according to 5live we will received just over £58,000 so about a month's wages, how the hell can we wait another 3 months before we could play again, so not a lot out of 125m for the national league.

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Post by Van Der Nipper » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:00 pm

sambino wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:00 pm be 2 years before we are back to normal in my honest opinion
Please stop with this scaremongering rubbish.
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Post by NORTHERNSOUL » Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:45 am

sambino wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:00 pm Whenever we play again in whatever league I reckon there will be still be massive restrictions in place maybe 500 in the ground how will our finances look then ? be 2 years before we are back to normal in my honest opinion
I don't agree if you played games with just local based home fans present what better way to measure whether there was any effect in the locality a couple of weeks down the line.

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Post by Hadrian » Sat Apr 04, 2020 8:31 am

By using a reasoned, scientific model, perhaps?

Meanwhile, a useful summary of the situation from Simon Stone. Again, no mention of the elephant in the room, though - existing TV contracts.
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Post by barrowfan » Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:52 am

Can't see us having the crowd limited to 500. Presumably you are suggesting social distancing to go with it. Wouldn't work. Who is going to police it?
I think when we get back it will be business as normal with no restrictions.

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Post by chipmunx » Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:04 am

barrowfan wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:52 am Can't see us having the crowd limited to 500. Presumably you are suggesting social distancing to go with it. Wouldn't work. Who is going to police it?
I think when we get back it will be business as normal with no restrictions.
the only restriction on start up might be no away fans - which would be sensible as some areas of the country would be relatively virus free before others and away fan travel might compromise that.
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Post by barrowfan » Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:19 am

chipmunx wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:04 am
barrowfan wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:52 am Can't see us having the crowd limited to 500. Presumably you are suggesting social distancing to go with it. Wouldn't work. Who is going to police it?
I think when we get back it will be business as normal with no restrictions.
the only restriction on start up might be no away fans - which would be sensible as some areas of the country would be relatively virus free before others and away fan travel might compromise that.
I take what you're saying but what is to stop an away fan coming into the home gates, so perhaps spreading it?

I think large gatherings will be banned for quite some time.

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Post by whitty1969 » Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:24 am

barrowfan wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:19 am
chipmunx wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:04 am

the only restriction on start up might be no away fans - which would be sensible as some areas of the country would be relatively virus free before others and away fan travel might compromise that.
I take what you're saying but what is to stop an away fan coming into the home gates, so perhaps spreading it?

I think large gatherings will be banned for quite some time.
Not happening. 700 a day dying. Not a chance of football for months.

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Post by jaycarter » Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:56 am

It would be much easier to solve if Div 2 had one team less rather than Div 1, then possibly if the season were declared completed to avoid a mass of lawsuits declare no relegation then invite the team top of Div 2 to Div 1 and invite the team top of the national League to join Div 2 but that would be too easy would it not.

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Post by jaycarter » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:33 pm

whitty1969 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:58 pm Ebbsfleet view

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/gravesend/ ... et-225140/
That's the best quote I have seen to resolve the situation, well done Ebsfleet, Its more or less what I said in an earlier post.

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Re: Decisions being made

Post by barrowfan » Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:35 pm

If the season doesn't finish Burnley will be £50M in debt.

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