(Another) New Manager Discussion

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Re: (Another) New Manager Discussion

Post by Broughton Fan » Sun May 16, 2021 8:40 pm

My choice for manager would be Peter Atherton as we know from his spell under Evatt that he will play a pleasing style of football and he has spent a year in league two so he knows what it’s all about will have seen lots of available players last season and will know the strengths and weaknesses of the opposition and knows many of the Barrow players from previously the only thing would be like Kelly he might prefer coaching but if he fancies it he could be the man to take us forward and be looking upwards at the league,the fact that he has no experience as a number one might put some off but we know he can get the best out of players from his previous spell as so many players developed under him and his Yorkshire grit would go down well with the fans if he became available

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Re: (Another) New Manager Discussion

Post by PerthBluebird » Sun May 16, 2021 10:02 pm

Broughton Fan wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 8:40 pm My choice for manager would be Peter Atherton as we know from his spell under Evatt that he will play a pleasing style of football and he has spent a year in league two so he knows what it’s all about will have seen lots of available players last season and will know the strengths and weaknesses of the opposition and knows many of the Barrow players from previously the only thing would be like Kelly he might prefer coaching but if he fancies it he could be the man to take us forward and be looking upwards at the league,the fact that he has no experience as a number one might put some off but we know he can get the best out of players from his previous spell as so many players developed under him and his Yorkshire grit would go down well with the fans if he became available
No league experience no thanks. Take risks expect national league the end.
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Re: (Another) New Manager Discussion

Post by Broughton Fan » Sun May 16, 2021 10:27 pm

Big part of the most successful team in league two second half of last season Bolton changed their style of football to what works in league two so must have picked up valuable experience don’t see many candidates that even had an okay season last year

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Re: (Another) New Manager Discussion

Post by Moribund » Sun May 16, 2021 10:51 pm

Broughton Fan wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 10:27 pm Big part of the most successful team in league two second half of last season Bolton changed their style of football to what works in league two so must have picked up valuable experience don’t see many candidates that even had an okay season last year
Why not just appoint the analyst from last season as manager then? Cheaper.

Has Atherton ever even indicated he wants to be a manager, let alone expressed an interest in being Barrow manager?

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Re: (Another) New Manager Discussion

Post by HenneysKnee » Mon May 17, 2021 7:26 am

Broughton Fan wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 8:40 pm My choice for manager would be Peter Atherton as we know from his spell under Evatt that he will play a pleasing style of football
A) We don’t know that
B) No thanks

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Post by Bradders » Mon May 17, 2021 8:15 am

Moribund wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 10:51 pm
Broughton Fan wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 10:27 pm Big part of the most successful team in league two second half of last season Bolton changed their style of football to what works in league two so must have picked up valuable experience don’t see many candidates that even had an okay season last year
Why not just appoint the analyst from last season as manager then? Cheaper.

Has Atherton ever even indicated he wants to be a manager, let alone expressed an interest in being Barrow manager?
May just be going off the fact he’s listed in the betting.

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Re: (Another) New Manager Discussion

Post by Bradders » Mon May 17, 2021 8:21 am

I’d be happy with challinor. McGreal seems the man for taking the club into the next level was at cochester for just over 10 years in every single role except tea lady it seems.

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Re: (Another) New Manager Discussion

Post by mall » Mon May 17, 2021 8:24 am

PerthBluebird wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 10:02 pm
Broughton Fan wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 8:40 pm My choice for manager would be Peter Atherton as we know from his spell under Evatt that he will play a pleasing style of football and he has spent a year in league two so he knows what it’s all about will have seen lots of available players last season and will know the strengths and weaknesses of the opposition and knows many of the Barrow players from previously the only thing would be like Kelly he might prefer coaching but if he fancies it he could be the man to take us forward and be looking upwards at the league,the fact that he has no experience as a number one might put some off but we know he can get the best out of players from his previous spell as so many players developed under him and his Yorkshire grit would go down well with the fans if he became available
No league experience no thanks. Take risks expect national league the end.
"Take risks expect national league the end."
Spot on PB.

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Re: (Another) New Manager Discussion

Post by Falstaff » Mon May 17, 2021 8:42 am

Every successful manager (and indeed unsuccessful one) has to start somewhere as an untried and untested rookie. Where did Evatt start his full time managerial career?! The point being that an experienced manager doesnt guarantee success and a rookie certainly doesn't guarantee failure.

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Re: (Another) New Manager Discussion

Post by RedWeb » Mon May 17, 2021 9:21 am

Falstaff wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 8:42 am Where did Evatt start his full time managerial career?!
The National League, which is fine, especially when it seemed more likely Barrow were headed to the NLN than the EFL.

Think after the season we've just had we need experience. We tried the rookie route and it almost cost us our place in the EFL.

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Re: (Another) New Manager Discussion

Post by Big E » Mon May 17, 2021 9:45 am

Falstaff wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 8:42 am Every successful manager (and indeed unsuccessful one) has to start somewhere as an untried and untested rookie. Where did Evatt start his full time managerial career?! The point being that an experienced manager doesnt guarantee success and a rookie certainly doesn't guarantee failure.
True, no guarantees in life... But I feel the odds are better than another punt into the relatively unknown. We need to accept Evatt was a once in a decade (or more) 1st time manager.

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Re: (Another) New Manager Discussion

Post by Cringle » Mon May 17, 2021 9:58 am

Mark Cooper.
Just what we need, did a good job making Forest green a strong league 2 side and also sold a fair few players on for big money.
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Re: (Another) New Manager Discussion

Post by Suffolk Blue » Mon May 17, 2021 10:02 am

Problem with Evatt is that he was the exception not the rule. A truly talented younger manager. To some extent we tried to recreate him when we appointed Dunn and Jolley.

Kelly showed what the Board should have, by then worked out. That for a club like ours in our position at this time, you cannot substitute youth and potential for experience. At least not without incurring a much higher risk.

Unfortunately if the club do learn their lesson then the choice of manager may not be as palatable as it might be for some in terms of the fans perception of him as a bloke or the similar thought of other teams fans. We should remember that if the likes of Cooper or Hill do end up with the job.

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Re: (Another) New Manager Discussion

Post by RedWeb » Mon May 17, 2021 10:43 am

Suffolk Blue wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 10:02 am We should remember that if the likes of Cooper or Hill do end up with the job.
I just want a manager to take Barrow to the next level i.e. top half, pushing for play-offs. Think some of our number need to get a bit less picky on who they would be happy to see as manager. Someone like Mark Cooper has proven he can take a non-league side and get them to where Barrow want to be. If we only appoint a likeable lad who will come to the fanzone for a beer then you could end up disappointed.

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Re: (Another) New Manager Discussion

Post by boyliegladbach » Mon May 17, 2021 11:04 am

RedWeb wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 10:43 am
Suffolk Blue wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 10:02 am We should remember that if the likes of Cooper or Hill do end up with the job.
I just want a manager to take Barrow to the next level i.e. top half, pushing for play-offs. Think some of our number need to get a bit less picky on who they would be happy to see as manager. Someone like Mark Cooper has proven he can take a non-league side and get them to where Barrow want to be.
With a big budget and transfer funds

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