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Post by MisterPleasant » Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:14 pm

bamber678 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 11:03 am Where are people going for a pre match pint? There’s no “official away pub” for some reason
The Howard Arms on Lowther Street is pretty good - bit of a walk to the ground. The Beehive opposite Brunton Park is very much the 'home' pub.
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Post by bluedevil » Mon Nov 08, 2021 3:56 pm

MisterPleasant wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:14 pm
bamber678 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 11:03 am Where are people going for a pre match pint? There’s no “official away pub” for some reason
The Howard Arms on Lowther Street is pretty good - bit of a walk to the ground. The Beehive opposite Brunton Park is very much the 'home' pub.
Rugby Club next door is where the plod like the away fans to be. Easy access to the ground, locals are 'normally' friendly and if there's no Rugby on then plenty of space.

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Post by bluedevil » Mon Nov 08, 2021 3:59 pm

bluedevil wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 3:56 pm
MisterPleasant wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:14 pm
The Howard Arms on Lowther Street is pretty good - bit of a walk to the ground. The Beehive opposite Brunton Park is very much the 'home' pub.
Rugby Club next door is where the plod like the away fans to be. Easy access to the ground, locals are 'normally' friendly and if there's no Rugby on then plenty of space.

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Post by bluedevil » Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:07 pm

The Rugby is away at 'Penrith'

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Post by McMark » Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:11 pm

bluedevil wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 3:59 pm
bluedevil wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 3:56 pm

Rugby Club next door is where the plod like the away fans to be. Easy access to the ground, locals are 'normally' friendly and if there's no Rugby on then plenty of space.
CRUFC are away at Winters Park to Penrith this Saturday.
Have emailed the Rugby to ask if they are open early as usually they don’t open until twelve. Also what parking arrangements they offer. Waiting on a response will update when known.

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Post by NORTHERNSOUL » Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:44 pm

So what's happening with this train then ?

Not seen it publicised anywhere.

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Post by Methuselah » Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:06 pm

I rang the club today and was told somebody was trying to organise a train,but nothing forthcoming as yet.They also said it would be on their site if they did manage to sort it.Personally I think it has been left too late to try and organise it.I think somebody has underestimated how many people would want to go and watch us play Carlisle.It normally takes a few weeks notice to organise a footballing special and it has to fit in-between the existing timetable,also most people have already bought their train tickets.Possibly the only way it could happen is to replace a scheduled service to Carlisle with a football special,which may cause disruption for people would normally use that particular train.

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Post by bluedevil » Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:18 pm

McMark wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:11 pm
bluedevil wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 3:59 pm
CRUFC are away at Winters Park to Penrith this Saturday.
Have emailed the Rugby to ask if they are open early as usually they don’t open until twelve. Also what parking arrangements they offer. Waiting on a response will update when known.
They have a decent size car park at the front, probably for about 100 (approx) cars. Sometimes they charge and sometimes they don't
(think they will on Saturday) it normally cost's £3 per car.

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Post by NORTHERNSOUL » Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:50 pm

Methuselah wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:06 pm I rang the club today and was told somebody was trying to organise a train,but nothing forthcoming as yet.They also said it would be on their site if they did manage to sort it.Personally I think it has been left too late to try and organise it.I think somebody has underestimated how many people would want to go and watch us play Carlisle.It normally takes a few weeks notice to organise a footballing special and it has to fit in-between the existing timetable,also most people have already bought their train tickets.Possibly the only way it could happen is to replace a scheduled service to Carlisle with a football special,which may cause disruption for people would normally use that particular train.
If it hasn't been sorted by now it won't be. Getting the paths wouldn't be a problem on the coast line. The issue would be getting enough stock to make it worthwhile you'd need say 6 carriages to get enough bodies on to make it pay and as there are only 2 classes [150.s and 156.s ] of units passed to go thru the tunnels at Wigton that wouldn't be easy at the best of times but then throw into the mix the issues on the Southport via Wigan line where the 769.s have sat down and are needing to be replaced with exactly the same classes of units that they'd be looking for to run the special with.

They would have done better getting one of the pre-formed charter trains and going up the mainline via Lancaster [ pretty sure there's no North facing chord at Carnforth ] which i.ll bet would still have been quicker and the charter company would have done all the pathing work etc. I.d have rung West Coast at Carnforth they're local and as cheap as anyone else and have loads of stock and cheap[ish]locos [37.s] available [ they operated that shuttle up the Lakes Line a couple of years back when there really was a stock shortage]. Pity somebody at the club hadn't been on the ball or they could have run it and made a few quid into the bargain.

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Post by Desmond2-2 » Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:54 pm

NORTHERNSOUL wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:44 pm So what's happening with this train then ?

Not seen it publicised anywhere.
Why, you relying on it, or just your usual little dig.

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Post by NORTHERNSOUL » Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:21 pm

Desmond2-2 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:54 pm
NORTHERNSOUL wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:44 pm So what's happening with this train then ?

Not seen it publicised anywhere.
Why, you relying on it, or just your usual little dig.
No dig at all

Just wondered what had happened as it all seemed to have gone very quiet especially given plods purported involvement.

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Post by Squiffy » Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:17 am

As the game kicks off at 13.00hrs plus it's international weekend will it be available on ifollow?

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Post by Squiffy » Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:23 am

Should have added `to watch` on ifollow.

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Post by April1972 » Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:55 am

NORTHERNSOUL wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:50 pm
Methuselah wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:06 pm I rang the club today and was told somebody was trying to organise a train,but nothing forthcoming as yet.They also said it would be on their site if they did manage to sort it.Personally I think it has been left too late to try and organise it.I think somebody has underestimated how many people would want to go and watch us play Carlisle.It normally takes a few weeks notice to organise a footballing special and it has to fit in-between the existing timetable,also most people have already bought their train tickets.Possibly the only way it could happen is to replace a scheduled service to Carlisle with a football special,which may cause disruption for people would normally use that particular train.
If it hasn't been sorted by now it won't be. Getting the paths wouldn't be a problem on the coast line. The issue would be getting enough stock to make it worthwhile you'd need say 6 carriages to get enough bodies on to make it pay and as there are only 2 classes [150.s and 156.s ] of units passed to go thru the tunnels at Wigton that wouldn't be easy at the best of times but then throw into the mix the issues on the Southport via Wigan line where the 769.s have sat down and are needing to be replaced with exactly the same classes of units that they'd be looking for to run the special with.

They would have done better getting one of the pre-formed charter trains and going up the mainline via Lancaster [ pretty sure there's no North facing chord at Carnforth ] which i.ll bet would still have been quicker and the charter company would have done all the pathing work etc. I.d have rung West Coast at Carnforth they're local and as cheap as anyone else and have loads of stock and cheap[ish]locos [37.s] available [ they operated that shuttle up the Lakes Line a couple of years back when there really was a stock shortage]. Pity somebody at the club hadn't been on the ball or they could have run it and made a few quid into the bargain.
Really p. poor organisation.
I don’t think that any of us are surprised at the demand for tickets for this game.
Rather than pulling the KO earlier the police should have been working with the club in arranging safe transport. A charter train would have been ideal and could have been sorted well in advance with prior notification to all those buying tickets - We have West Coast at Carnforth and DRS at Carlisle both more than capable of supplying this and both have worked with Northern recently. (DRS supplied the Locos and stock on the coast line for a few years when Northern were short of units. So both these companies are on Northern’s Safety case).
Now we will have hundreds of fans travelling on crowded service trains mixing with the Public and most likely with Carlisle fans also. There is far more potential for trouble here than re-arraigning the KO time.
We have had successful charter trains in the past to Wembley and for those that remember to Burnden Park for Bolton away in the FA cup.

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Post by McMark » Tue Nov 09, 2021 10:25 am

Not had a response to my email so called Katie today they thought it was a 14:00 kick off so are currently reviewing their plans and will email me once decided. Parking option available and will be £3 per car at Carlisle Rugby Union ground on Warwick Rd just next to the football ground.

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