Barrow v Harrogate Town match thread

[blue nige]

Hate to say this Mark, but you're correct which is frightening to be honest at this moment in time I'm sick of everything if we could toss a coin on whether we stay up or go down I'd take it ,this season is unbelievable but for the wrong reasons!

[HenneysKnee]

4 managers this lot have had. The problem is the players, if we survive I hope we can get rid of the lot and start again.

Spot on
I know it’s not football manager where you can just release everyone but there really isn’t many at all you would ideally keep for the squad next season if we do somehow stay up; 4 or 5 at the absolute most

[Methuselah]

The trouble is a lot of these young players have no fight in them when the going gets tough.The amount of back passing ,sideways passing and ducking out of challenges was unbelievable.The crowd supported them all the way through and got rewarded with mediocrity.
That needs to change.We need fighters and at the moment they are invisible.Must try harder.

[blue nige]

The trouble is a lot of these young players have no fight in them when the going gets tough.The amount of back passing ,sideways passing and ducking out of challenges was unbelievable.The crowd supported them all the way through and got rewarded with mediocrity.
That needs to change.We need fighters and at the moment they are invisible.Must try harder.

That's down to movement/ coaching we play 3 at the back this involves passing it around, we can't play this ,it constantly means people won't run into positions because if there's one bad pass you'll be left wide open!
I and others said if we carry on with this formation we'd be in trouble, I was criticised for not supporting the manager/ board but because of their decisions we're in this position it's NOT going to change anytime soon !,Harrogate were not great BUT they played with a back 4 and kept their shape we had players who were square pegs in round holes and it showed, Dino probably wants a structure like Harrogate played but we're stuck with what we've got !

[Hitthebar22]

The trouble is a lot of these young players have no fight in them when the going gets tough.The amount of back passing ,sideways passing and ducking out of challenges was unbelievable.The crowd supported them all the way through and got rewarded with mediocrity.
That needs to change.We need fighters and at the moment they are invisible.Must try harder.

That's down to movement/ coaching we play 3 at the back this involves passing it around, we can't play this ,it constantly means people won't run into positions because if there's one bad pass you'll be left wide open!
I and others said if we carry on with this formation we'd be in trouble, I was criticised for not supporting the manager/ board but because of their decisions we're in this position it's NOT going to change anytime soon !,Harrogate were not great BUT they played with a back 4 and kept their shape we had players who were square pegs in round holes and it showed, Dino probably wants a structure like Harrogate played but we're stuck with what we've got !

We played with a back 4 for 75% of the game. After the first half subs.

[Hadrian]

If only Newby showed as much commitment for 90 minutes than his gob did at the end to the fans. Clown

Do you ever post positive things?

[Hadrian]

Newby had a good game tonight whether he is local or not.. and he doesn't get away with anything for being local, in fact it is the opposite. People call him out for being local whenever they perceive him having a bad game. Tonight wasn't one of those bad games from him. And far from it. He was one of the few who did well tonight.

Agree. It's another of the numpty obsessions here.

[Hadrian]

Whilst disappointed with the result tonight I’m staying positive for the future games. Dino has seen first hand what happens when the run of play does not go our way and we make schoolboy mistakes. Yes, Newbs should have slotted this chances home; Yes, Thompson should have thought more about what he was doing; Yes we hit the crossbar. At the end of the game we came away with a loss - at home. But it wasn’t for the want of trying in my opinion.
We can’t go from lauding our team on a Saturday to calling them all the useless swines on Tuesday. Consistency from the team and their loyal fans - us - should be our focus.
Dino will fix this - I am confident.

Agree with that.

[manxy]

Just watched Dino’s post match interview. All I can say is he must have been watching a different game to me.
Just hopeless. We’ll be bottom at end of season. So sad.

[LewisBAFC1901]

If only Newby showed as much commitment for 90 minutes than his gob did at the end to the fans. Clown

Do you ever post positive things?

Yes , Elliot you were so good Barrows very own we love you no1 . We should win the league but we are hard done by

Better?

What the hell was there to be positive last night about?

[blue nige]

That's down to movement/ coaching we play 3 at the back this involves passing it around, we can't play this ,it constantly means people won't run into positions because if there's one bad pass you'll be left wide open!
I and others said if we carry on with this formation we'd be in trouble, I was criticised for not supporting the manager/ board but because of their decisions we're in this position it's NOT going to change anytime soon !,Harrogate were not great BUT they played with a back 4 and kept their shape we had players who were square pegs in round holes and it showed, Dino probably wants a structure like Harrogate played but we're stuck with what we've got !

We played with a back 4 for 75% of the game. After the first half subs.

No we didn't we made the substitutions in the 40th minute that's no where near 75% !
So what's your point, Harrogate barely troubled us in the second half, but Dino had taken off Barkhuizen ( who can't play wingback but he's a natural winger ) so we were left with Mahoney and Gordon ( who I don't know where he was playing) but kept drifting out there ! and Newby out left!

[Adam29]

We played with a back 4 for 75% of the game. After the first half subs.

No we didn't we made the substitutions in the 40th minute that's no where near 75% !
So what's your point, Harrogate barely troubled us in the second half, but Dino had taken off Barkhuizen ( who can't play wingback but he's a natural winger ) so we were left with Mahoney and Gordon ( who I don't know where he was playing) but kept drifting out there ! and Newby out left!

They changed to a back 4 when wyll went down for a tactical break in the first half which was before the substitutions were made

[Jonty]

It’s all down to quality of players and recruitment. That is the make or break of any side. You need 100% effort AND quality. This is more important than who is the Manager/ Coach and regardless of formations.

If you have effort and lack quality = struggle
If you have quality and lack effort = struggle

Then you also need 8 out of 11 on top of their game, every game, to give yourself a chance. If more than three are having stinkers, it’s too much for the rest to carry. Yes the back pass was punished last night but there was still 80+ minutes to get back into it and we fell short.

If we escape the drop there has to be a whole new approach to recruitment.

[blue nige]

It’s all down to quality of players and recruitment. That is the make or break of any side. You need 100% effort AND quality. This is more important than who is the Manager/ Coach and regardless of formations.

If you have effort and lack quality = struggle
If you have quality and lack effort = struggle

Then you also need 8 out of 11 on top of their game, every game, to give yourself a chance. If more than three are having stinkers, it’s too much for the rest to carry. Yes the back pass was punished last night but there was still 80+ minutes to get back into it and we fell short.

If we escape the drop there has to be a whole new approach to recruitment.

Jonty I agree BUT woods is in charge of recruitment, we all knew in January the recruitment was again crap yet Paul Hornby thought that we'd recruited well so what chance of we got ?

[Jonty]

It’s all down to quality of players and recruitment. That is the make or break of any side. You need 100% effort AND quality. This is more important than who is the Manager/ Coach and regardless of formations.

If you have effort and lack quality = struggle
If you have quality and lack effort = struggle

Then you also need 8 out of 11 on top of their game, every game, to give yourself a chance. If more than three are having stinkers, it’s too much for the rest to carry. Yes the back pass was punished last night but there was still 80+ minutes to get back into it and we fell short.

If we escape the drop there has to be a whole new approach to recruitment.

Jonty I agree BUT woods is in charge of recruitment, we all knew in January the recruitment was again crap yet Paul Hornby thought that we'd recruited well so what chance of we got ?

I agree mate, hence a review of recruitment is required, whatever the outcome of the season is.