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Re: Academy

Post by Big E » Mon May 09, 2022 9:13 pm

FanzoneFan wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 9:00 pm A number of people leaving comments on this thread seem to be relatively new to the forum. Just wondered if there was a hidden agenda ?
What sort of hidden agenda?

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Re: Academy

Post by Bombadel » Mon May 09, 2022 9:25 pm

FanzoneFan wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 9:00 pm A number of people leaving comments on this thread seem to be relatively new to the forum. Just wondered if there was a hidden agenda ?
Doesn’t matter on this forum, a 16 year old from Fylde can call himself “Billy Blue Bird” create an account, google a few places in Barrow and start a thread about the club going Vegan next year, would still get 7 pages +

Personally would rather wait to hear something official off the club, and the QnA with the board will be soon. loose lips sink ships as the saying goes.

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Re: Academy

Post by bafctimmy » Mon May 09, 2022 10:12 pm

Bombadel wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 6:56 pm
Hoddlegenius wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 6:50 pm Fair point, well made. It was watching Procky, Burgess, Doc and Skiv etc. when I was a kid that was extra special. I think now in times of it all being more family orientated and on TV more etc. more locals would mean more fans but as I said you’re point is spot on.
Tom Beadling was born in Barra, and the poor lad doesn’t even have his own chant.
He did down at Crawley to the tune of the John Lundstrum song.

Re: The academy, will wait for an official statement from the club but wish the lads well with their GCSE's.

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Re: Academy

Post by Etsjb » Tue May 10, 2022 12:37 am

Youth30 wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 3:23 pm Thanks for the reply, your right do they ever reply to anyone.
The biggest issue with me is telling them the week before they start there exams !!! the club of the community !!!!
I wonder if Phil Brown knows whats going on
Unofficial forum so not obliged to reply. Approaching the club direct is definintly the best option, ask for a meeting to explain the decision.

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Re: Academy

Post by Etsjb » Tue May 10, 2022 12:43 am

FanzoneFan wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 4:41 pm Youth30 if you write on the forum in the future I would check the message you've written for grammar errors.
I. JUST. CAN’T. 🤯

Have YOU heard of the different types of writing tenses?

If you are are going to call someone out on their grammar, you have to ensure that yours is water-tight.

Also, see Oxford comma.

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Re: Academy

Post by Pastor » Tue May 10, 2022 1:13 am

I've written on this forum before about the necessity to shake off the non-league mindset with reference to players training in or near Barrow, rather than remotely and I realise that I'm probably in a minority in thinking that way. However the question of an academy, or a lack thereof also prompts we to question the long term ambition of the club. Maybe it's just unaffordable.

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Re: Academy

Post by Youth30 » Tue May 10, 2022 5:15 am

This the last time I will post on here I better check my spelling also as I seem to be getting pulled up a lot on here as I was never any good at English.

I’ve read all the comments agree on some but not others.
I get football is a harsh world , the club new about this many weeks now I am informed. Why didn’t they let the lads no then !!!! Instead of waiting till this week and not having the decency to inform them. I personally think the club is run like a Sunday league outfit. They will most likely come out and say they are differing it now , when till ? Next year as there are no u15s coming through so all the lads would have to be from away which equals more cost. So realistically it will be 2 years.
At the end of the day we just wanted a answer from the club it’s not a lot to ask, I’ll just stick to watching HOB from now on as some of the football I have seen down HSE has been woeful.
The so called community club what a load of drivel. Thanks for all the responses by the way as most of use are genuine football fans

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Re: Academy

Post by Desmond2-2 » Tue May 10, 2022 10:03 am

Youth30 wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 5:15 am This the last time I will post on here I better check my spelling also as I seem to be getting pulled up a lot on here as I was never any good at English.

I’ve read all the comments agree on some but not others.
I get football is a harsh world , the club new about this many weeks now I am informed. Why didn’t they let the lads no then !!!! Instead of waiting till this week and not having the decency to inform them. I personally think the club is run like a Sunday league outfit. They will most likely come out and say they are differing it now , when till ? Next year as there are no u15s coming through so all the lads would have to be from away which equals more cost. So realistically it will be 2 years.
At the end of the day we just wanted a answer from the club it’s not a lot to ask, I’ll just stick to watching HOB from now on as some of the football I have seen down HSE has been woeful.
The so called community club what a load of drivel. Thanks for all the responses by the way as most of use are genuine football fans
Bye then. You’ve got a reaction, get up rakesmoor and watch some top footy.

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Re: Academy

Post by Methuselah » Tue May 10, 2022 10:49 am

To Youth 30
Don't leave the forum just because you get a few sarcastic comments.I also used to get pulled about my grammar.It goes with the territory,people can be quite harsh on here.
Most posts on here are by people who are passionate about the future of the club and you are when you post about the future of the Academy.
I would wait for an announcement from the club,because it may be financial and I would suspect the club wants to concentrate on building a much stronger playing squad and making sure the ground improvements take place.
They do probably want an Academy,but have decided not to go ahead at the moment until they can properly support it financially,something I suspect they are not able to do at the moment.
It would have been better if they had given you a proper explanation as to why the Academy was being discontinued,maybe arranging a meeting with everybody involved so you were better able to understand the reasons why.If you messaged Paul Hornby privately or sent him a letter asking for a meeting you may get a proper explanation or better still go along to a question and answer session where you can ask him person to person in front of the other people there,who I may suspect are as puzzled as you are as to the change of intention.

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Re: Academy

Post by Back of the net » Tue May 10, 2022 12:35 pm

No one should be put off by smart arsed comments by those who perceive themselves superior, grammar [SwearFilter] !

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Re: Academy

Post by John_Bucks » Tue May 10, 2022 12:43 pm

For me, knowing nothing about the situation it appears to be a bit of an own goal by the board to pull the plug, in the way that they seem to have done it.

However, if it is for financial reasons then it’s tough shit, they have an EFL club to run, a big rebuild to do again in the summer, a ground to be maintained/improved and all whilst still trying to claw back all the losses in the covid season. It’s a shame for the kids involved of course it is but the priorities are obvious.

If it isn’t financial then they have taken aim firmly at their own feet and are being rightly criticised. I’d be inclined to wait and see the clubs stance on this is first though.
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Re: Academy

Post by Matty » Tue May 10, 2022 12:54 pm

John_Bucks wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 12:43 pm For me, knowing nothing about the situation it appears to be a bit of an own goal by the board to pull the plug, in the way that they seem to have done it.

However, if it is for financial reasons then it’s tough shit, they have an EFL club to run, a big rebuild to do again in the summer, a ground to be maintained/improved and all whilst still trying to claw back all the losses in the covid season. It’s a shame for the kids involved of course it is but the priorities are obvious.

If it isn’t financial then they have taken aim firmly at their own feet and are being rightly criticised. I’d be inclined to wait and see the clubs stance on this is first though.
People can understand if there's genuine reasons, but the problem here is whoever was getting a scholarship were told over an email or message (or whatever), with no explanation as to why. That's the part that doesn't sit. Seems disappointing on the face of it.
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Re: Academy

Post by Main Stand SeasonTct » Tue May 10, 2022 1:49 pm

The club need to make a statement about this ASAP IMO. Somebody called Nick Ellis who appears to know what's gone on has just posted a series of tweets giving his thoughts. This episode appears to be quickly eroding any relationship the club had with local clubs. Interestingly he tagged BBC Radio Cumbria into his tweets, The Mail and the Lancashire FA.

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Re: Academy

Post by beachy01 » Tue May 10, 2022 2:01 pm

Main Stand SeasonTct wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 1:49 pm The club need to make a statement about this ASAP IMO. Somebody called Nick Ellis who appears to know what's gone on has just posted a series of tweets giving his thoughts. This episode appears to be quickly eroding any relationship the club had with local clubs. Interestingly he tagged BBC Radio Cumbria into his tweets, The Mail and the Lancashire FA.
Hes one of the coaches who was doing the u16s. Decent guy

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Re: Academy

Post by Barrowbrando » Tue May 10, 2022 2:05 pm

It makes sense from the club. If they had 6 lads lined up who were bang average, no chance of making the first team squad and no under 15 squad coming though, to cut them.

The financial saving and another 18 months to iron out any issues and problems.

This is a professional business where peoples money is at stake, we don’t have a sheikh owner, this is football it’s a dog eat dog world with consequences.

I for one would no complain one iota if the budget for those 6 academy graduates for 2 years went onto a striker that scored 15-20 league goals for the next 2 seasons and kept us in the football league.

I see it as the board finally becoming ruthless and potent.

I see youth30 as a disgruntled parent as his son didn’t get a contract
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