Furloughing players

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Re: Furloughing players

Post by blue nige » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:11 pm

Well said Liverpoolann league football/ footballers at this level is ruthless it's dog eat dog ,look what Evatt did to us after making statements about the fans etc he and Rooney still left us ,as would most of them there's no loyalty nowadays (which I personally think is sad) so our directors have had their fingers burnt there, so I'm so glad the people in charge are making sure that at least we're making an effort to stay in this league, if people feel that strongly you need to realise it's a totally different ballgame now !

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Re: Furloughing players

Post by blue nige » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:17 pm

HenneysKnee wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:10 pm
Cubbins Paratrooper wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:56 pm Individual players who accept the furlough scheme offer would seemingly be allowed to strike up their own arrangements to maintain fitness, possibly with clubs closer to their home, thus giving them the best chance of finding a new club in due course whilst at the same time, receiving full financial support during the period their respective contracts, or at least until the furlough scheme ends, currently earmarked for April 30th.
If a player is “maintaining his fitness with another club” he is working. Shouldn’t be working whilst on furlough
how can he be working if he's not being paid by them ?

does that mean people who say are working at BAE cannot keep themselves fit while being furloughed or say volunteer at Holker Street arevthey then working for Barrow afc?

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Re: Furloughing players

Post by HenneysKnee » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:19 pm

There’s a bit of a difference between someone at BAE lifting a few weights at home and a footballer training with a football club

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Post by mickycarrol » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:20 pm

Tommylad wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:58 pm
April1972 wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:59 pm
The scheme is there for businesses that can’t afford to pay their staff as they can’t operate due to the restrictions- not to bring in new staff and then furlough the original unwanted staff. I totally stand by my comments as supported by most on here.
Government are all shithouses, milk them for every penny you can get.
Not quite sure you know where the govt get their money from here.....incase your unaware it’s the working people of this nation, otherwise known as the tax payer. Your not milking the govt your milking the honest working man.
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Re: Furloughing players

Post by MisterPleasant » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:25 pm

Wow, there's a lot of hot air around here tonight. Fortunately, we have @liverpoolann and @Cubbins Paratrooper to give a bit of perspective.
Tax avoidance, also, isn't a 'good look' for many organisations but it's legal and customers keep going back. Who's used Amazon or Google or Facebook or Netflix or Apple or Microsoft in the past few months?

Or we could 'morally and ethically' make our way back to the National League.
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Re: Furloughing players

Post by blue nige » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:25 pm

HenneysKnee wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:19 pm There’s a bit of a difference between someone at BAE lifting a few weights at home and a footballer training with a football club
if they are not playing football for that club and only keeping fit there's no difference stop trying to point score and stick to facts.

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Re: Furloughing players

Post by Matty » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:27 pm

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Re: Furloughing players

Post by boyliegladbach » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:35 pm

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Re: Furloughing players

Post by bigmac95 » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:35 pm

Very disappointed and not a good look.

I would rather be in the national league and be proud of the way my club conducts itself rather than be in the football league and be ashamed of the club using a pandemic to cut losses having just spent a fortune on new players.

Had the players not been signed, and the club not decided to increase the playing budget itself then I could understand this decision.

The trusts argument that the club 'would' have had offers for these players in 'normal times' is weak. The club knew the context and circumstances when they signed all these new players. They knew it would be near impossible to ship out players.
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Re: Furloughing players

Post by Steeley » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:38 pm

blue nige wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:25 pm
HenneysKnee wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:19 pm There’s a bit of a difference between someone at BAE lifting a few weights at home and a footballer training with a football club
if they are not playing football for that club and only keeping fit there's no difference stop trying to point score and stick to facts.
So if someone's furloughed from BAE they should be able to volunteer down at Kimberly Clark?
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Re: Furloughing players

Post by Il Metronomo » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:40 pm

MisterPleasant wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:25 pm Wow, there's a lot of hot air around here tonight. Fortunately, we have @liverpoolann and @Cubbins Paratrooper to give a bit of perspective.
Tax evasion, also, isn't a 'good look' for many organisations but it's legal and customers keep going back. Who's used Amazon or Google or Facebook or Netflix or Apple or Microsoft in the past few months?

Or we could 'morally and ethically' make our way back to the National League.
Tax evasion is definitely not legal.

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Re: Furloughing players

Post by Jeeby » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:45 pm

It's not tax evasion, it's legal creative accountancy, it happens every day in every business.

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Re: Furloughing players

Post by MisterPleasant » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:46 pm

Il Metronomo wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:40 pm
MisterPleasant wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:25 pm Wow, there's a lot of hot air around here tonight. Fortunately, we have @liverpoolann and @Cubbins Paratrooper to give a bit of perspective.
Tax evasion, also, isn't a 'good look' for many organisations but it's legal and customers keep going back. Who's used Amazon or Google or Facebook or Netflix or Apple or Microsoft in the past few months?

Or we could 'morally and ethically' make our way back to the National League.
Tax evasion is definitely not legal.
You're absolutely right, I've amended it to 'avoidance'.
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Re: Furloughing players

Post by April1972 » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:58 pm

Jeeby wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:45 pm It's not tax evasion, it's legal creative accountancy, it happens every day in every business.
No it’s not tax evasion.
It’s worse as it’s not avoiding paying tax it is actually claiming money from a pot that is there to help businesses that are struggling to operate normally in the current restrictions.
Yes all companies and some individuals work the tax rules to their benefit on an annual basis and most pay their advisers handsomely to do this but we are not talking about the same thing here.

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Re: Furloughing players

Post by DaveP » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:19 pm

Meanwhile back in the real world firstly thousands of businesses are making false claims including those where staff are still working and for those waving the flag this coming out of my taxes need to realise it isn't because it's all borrowed money

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