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Re: Casson

Post by bamber678 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:16 am

How much money will the club get if we were to get promoted? £1million maybe or am I way off? Anyway my point is if we do get that much for going up then why doesn't he splash out and buy the league and get his money back. The sooner we start winning the sooner bigger crowds come back and that's where he'll make his money! He said he's running us like a business so he's only going to put in what he's getting back but the way we are going there won't be many fans left by the end of the season. Please PC spend some [SwearFilter] money and I'm sure you'll get it back in a season or 2!

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Re: Casson

Post by Chris Benoit » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:18 am

mikemarshhewasgood wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:09 am looking at the gate numbers why would he pump more cash into the team. Town can't be arsed to back it up which is a pity. So let's look at the whole picture and maybe things might make more sense
Look at years gone by. We were pulling in 2k+ for games like Oxford at home, the unbeaten Conf North run etc. The support is there but there needs to be a way of tapping into that percentage that are staying away for whatever reason.

I do think that there seems to be a bit of a disconnection between supporters and the club which has been the case since we were in the final couple of years of the Keens tenure. Have we actually felt any sort of connection to any of our squads since the days of Paul Jones, Matt Henry, Mcnulty etc? The club is ran more like an every day business rather than a football club type of business. I think if we got the basics (from my previous post) right and then stopped pandering exclusively to corporate types then we might start to see a change in attitude on our part.

Not so many season's ago I would literally do anything to get to games, these days I can give or take it whether I attend. It just doesn't feel like it used to. I'm not being nostalgic or anything I just believe that basic mistakes are being made and that the working class support feel alienated at times.
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Re: Casson

Post by boyliegladbach » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:23 am

mikemarshhewasgood wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:09 am looking at the gate numbers why would he pump more cash into the team. Town can't be arsed to back it up which is a pity. So let's look at the whole picture and maybe things might make more sense
maybe everyone's waiting for the roof,the shop,the improved matchday expieriance and all the other things mentioned at the forum 3 years ago.

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Re: Casson

Post by AugustusCorpa » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:26 am

It's been said lots before. People want to be entertained. They aren't going to turn up in big numbers to watch crap football.
Barrow need to consistently be playing good football & be in the top 3 for attendances to increase substantially. It ain't going to happen. We can't even beat a poor Guiseley side. Don't think we can put it down to bad weather conditions either.

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Re: Casson

Post by mikemarshhewasgood » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:49 am

I think the loyal support has had its expectations raised and then lowered too many times in the era you mention and this has impacted on the feeling and atmosphere at h/s. A good number of the old support are no longer with us and they grew up on watching Barrow Afc. The days of expecting to watch a hard game of football, players we felt of as mates, getting that big win and then going on to the pub with mates and getting drunk were the best though, great times and hope they return

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Re: Casson

Post by mikemarshhewasgood » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:55 am

if you build it they will come is from a film and not reality though, especially with our location

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Re: Casson

Post by The Tomahawk Kid » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:37 pm

The best person who should have being asked regarding Paul Casson and what's happening at the club was right on our door-step last night...Paul Cox!
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Re: Casson

Post by The Tomahawk Kid » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:40 pm

Chris Benoit wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:18 am
mikemarshhewasgood wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:09 am looking at the gate numbers why would he pump more cash into the team. Town can't be arsed to back it up which is a pity. So let's look at the whole picture and maybe things might make more sense
Look at years gone by. We were pulling in 2k+ for games like Oxford at home, the unbeaten Conf North run etc. The support is there but there needs to be a way of tapping into that percentage that are staying away for whatever reason.

I do think that there seems to be a bit of a disconnection between supporters and the club which has been the case since we were in the final couple of years of the Keens tenure. Have we actually felt any sort of connection to any of our squads since the days of Paul Jones, Matt Henry, Mcnulty etc? The club is ran more like an every day business rather than a football club type of business. I think if we got the basics (from my previous post) right and then stopped pandering exclusively to corporate types then we might start to see a change in attitude on our part.

Not so many season's ago I would literally do anything to get to games, these days I can give or take it whether I attend. It just doesn't feel like it used to. I'm not being nostalgic or anything I just believe that basic mistakes are being made and that the working class support feel alienated at times.
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Re: Casson

Post by Big E » Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:01 pm

The Tomahawk Kid wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:37 pm The best person who should have being asked regarding Paul Casson and what's happening at the club was right on our door-step last night...Paul Cox!
Really? You think he was squeaky clean in all of this...!!

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Re: Casson

Post by Dalton Bluebird » Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:42 pm

The silence is deafening 👀
I don't belieeeeeeeve it!
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Re: Casson

Post by Pedro » Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:54 pm

Steeley wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:21 pm Very negative thread, without Casson there wouldnt be a club etc etc etc...
You mean instead of the stability we have now three years on from his takeover?
Suppose you are right the way the club was going pre Casson we would have to reduced the playing and management staff and sell the best players we really have moved forward!
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Re: Casson

Post by Hindpool 97 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:05 pm

Chris Benoit wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:18 am
Not so many season's ago I would literally do anything to get to games, these days I can give or take it whether I attend. It just doesn't feel like it used to.
Agree with this statement. There's no busting a gut to get to games anymore. From top to bottom, chairman to fans, the whole club is so flat which reflects on the coaching side and ultimately the pitch.

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Re: Casson

Post by JammyBluebird » Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:22 pm

The point about raising expectations is true. People with a casual interest in Barrow are asking "Promotion still on for this season?" because all they've heard is talk of promotion within X years.

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Re: Casson

Post by Soulboy » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:47 pm

Those people don't go to games unless it's a third round fa cup or big club trophy tie. Not supporters by any means but fair weather falsies who attend and act as though they're regular fans. Room 101. When they're there easy to spot as don't know players names..... the number eight is crap....😅....can't find the toilets....don't know what beer is on at the bar...usually surrounded by similar "fans" who to draw strength via each other. A rare species only to be seen at holker street when there USA glimpse of glory. Room 101.

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Re: Casson

Post by Tom Brownlee » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:50 pm

Soulboy wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:47 pm Those people don't go to games unless it's a third round fa cup or big club trophy tie. Not supporters by any means but fair weather falsies who attend and act as though they're regular fans. Room 101. When they're there easy to spot as don't know players names..... the number eight is crap....😅....can't find the toilets....don't know what beer is on at the bar...usually surrounded by similar "fans" who to draw strength via each other. A rare species only to be seen at holker street when there USA glimpse of glory. Room 101.
The vast majority of football followers in the town then and people we need to entice more to games?

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